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ACTION SS-25 

INFO OCT-01 ADP-00 CCO-OO SSO-OO NSCE-00 /026 W 

082675 

O 021 143 Z APR 73 
FM AMEMBASSY VIENNA 
TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 8291 
INFO SECDEF/ WASHDC IMMEDIATE 

SECRET SECTION 1 OF 2 VIENNA 2633 

EXDIS 

NOFORN 

FROM US MBFR REP 

EO: 11652 GDS 
TOGS: PARM 

SUB J : MBFR: APRIL 1 DISCUSSION WITH SOVIET REP ON HUNGARIAN ISSUE 
REF: VIENNA 2621 

1. BEGIN SUMMARY. US REP MET WITH SOVIET REP KVITSINSKIY AT 1 100 
HOURS LOCAL TIME, SUNDAY, APRIL 1 . US REP TOOK LINE SET FORTH IN 
PARA 14 OF REFTEL. KVITSINSKIY SAID HIS INITIAL REACTION WAS THAT 
TO ADD THE PHRASE " ABOUT FORCES AND TERRITORY IN CENTRAL EUROPE" 

TO THE ENLARGEMENT FORMULA WOULD PRECLUDE SOVIETS FROM DISCUSSING 
ITALY IF AND WHEN THE HUNGARIAN ISSUE WERE RAISED IN NEGOTIATIONS. 

FOR THIS REASONS, HE DOUBTED ITS ACCEPTABILITY. REGARDING UNILAT- 
ERAL STATEMENTS, KVITSINSKIY SAID HE THOUGHT THE EAST WOULD WISH 
TO MAKE A REPLY TO THE EFFECT THAT THE WESTERN STATEMENT WAS NOT 
BINDING. US REP OBJECTED THIS WOULD DEPRIVE STATEMENTS OF THEIR 
VALUE. KVITSINSKIY AGAIN RAISED QUESTION OF NOMENCLATURE OF FRG. 
KVITSINSKIY SAID HE WOULD REPORT CONVERSATION TO MOSCOW THAT DAY 
AND HOPE FOR NEW INSTRUCTIONS BY THE EVENING OF APRIL 2. END 
SUMMARY. 

2. US REP MET WITH SOVIET REP KVITSINSKIY AT 1 100 HOURS LOCAL 
TIME, APRIL 1 ( STATE 59982 NOT RECEIVED HERE UNTIL 1058 LOCAL 
TIME). US REP TOLD KVITSINSKIY HE HAD REPORTED HIS REMARKS OF 

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MARCH 30 TOGETHER WITH THE SUGGESTED SOVIET TEXT TO THE DEPART 
MENT. AS HE READ THE SITUATION IN THE DEPARTMENT, HE DID NOT 
BELIEVE THE LATTER WOULD WISH TO CONSIDER A SOLUTION WHICH DID NOT 
LEAVE OPEN THE POSSIBLE INCLUSION OF HUNGARY FOR LATER DECISION, 
WHICH CONTAINED AN ENLARGEMENT CLAUSE WHICH IN ITS PRESENT FORMU- 
LATION MAINLY SERVED SOVIET INTERESTS, AND WHICH MADE NO PROVISION 
FOR TREATMENT OF THE HUNGARIAN ISSUE IN A NEUTRAL WAY. HE BELIEV- 
ED THIS SITUATION MIGHT BE CHANGED IF THE SOVIETS WERE WILLING TO 
ACCEPT INCLUSION IN THE TEXT OF A POSSIBLE ENLARGEMENT FORMULA 
OF THE PHRASE " WITH FORCES OR TERRITORY IN CENTRAL EUROPE" AFTER 
THE PHRASE " IF ANOTHER STATE" AND ALSO TO AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD 
EITHER BE AN AGREED STATEMENT ON HUNGARY OR AN UNCONTESTED ALLIED 
STATEMENT ALONG THE LINES OF THE SECOND AND FOURTH CONCEPTS AD- 
VANCED BY THE ALLIED REPS ON MARCH 28. US REP SAID HE THOUGHT AL- 
LIES WOULD BE WILLING TO DISCUSS THE LANGUAGE OF SUCH STATEMENTS 
AND MAKE POSSIBLE CHANGES, AS LONG AS THEIR MAIN LINES WERE PRE- 
SERVED. HE SAID THAT IN VIEW OF THE SENSITIVITIES SHOWN BY THE 
HUNGARIANS, IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO CONSIDER CUTTING BACK SOMWHAT 
ON THE FORMULATION OF THE SUGGESTED HUNGARIAN STATEMENT WHILE PRE- 
SERVING ITS MAIN LINES. AS REGARDS OTHER ASPECTS OF THE SOVIET 
PAPER, HE WOULD RETURN TO THEM AT A LATER POINT. HE MERELY WISHED 
TO NOTE AT THIS POINT THAT HE HAD SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE SIGNI- 
FICANCE OF THE LAST SENTENCE OF THE PROPOSED ENLARGEMENT FORMULA. 

3. AFTER EXAMINING THE SUGGESTED ADDITION TO THE ENLARGEMENT FOR- 
MULA, WHICH HE HAD WRITTEN INTO THE SOVIET TEXT OF THE PROCEDURES 
PAPER, KVITSINSKIY SAID HE DID NOT THINK THIS FORMULA WOULD PROVE 
VERY ATTRACTIVE. IT WOULD PREVENT THE EAST FROM RAISING THE QUES- 
TION OF ITALY DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS IF THE ALLIES RAISED THE 
HUNGARIAN ISSUE. IT COULD ONLY BE CONSIDERED, HE THOUGHT, IF THE 
PHRASE READ, " WITH FORCES OR TERRITORY IN THE STRATEGIC AREA OF 
CENTRAL EUROPE," WHICH IN THE SOVIET DEFINITION WOULD INCLUDE 
ITALY. US REP SAID SOVIETS SHOULD NOT ASK FOR TOO MUCH. IF THE 
ENLARGEMENT FORMULA THEY HAD PROPOSED WERE TO BE FURTHER CONSID- 
ERED, IT WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF ESTABLISHING THREE BARRIERS 
AGAINST ARBITRARY TREATMENT OF THE HUNGARIAN ISSUE WHICH SHOULD 
PROVIDE FULL PROTECTION TO EASTERN INTERESTS: THE DECISION TO 
BRING IN HUNGARY WOULD HAVE TO BE BY CONSENSUS; IT WOULD HAVE TO 
BE AT THE DESIRE OF HUNGARY; AND THE SOVIETS COULD ALSO ARGUE ON 
THE BASIS OF PREJUDICING THEIR SECURITY IF THIS SENTENCE WERE RE- 
TAINED IN ITS PRESENT FORM. KVITSINSKIY REPEATED THAT HE DID NOT 
THINK THE FORMULA WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. US REP SAID HE SHOULD 
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4. KVITSINSKIY SAID AS HE UNDERSTOOD THE MOSCOW VIEWPOINT, IT 
DID NOT APPROVE USING EXCHANGES OF STATEMENTS OR AN UNCONTESTED 
WESTERN STATEMENT. IF IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, THERE WERE TO BE A 
WESTERN STATEMENT, THERE WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO BE AN EASTERN 
STATEMENT WHICH SAID THE WESTERN STATEMENT WAS NOT BINDING. US 
REP SAID ANY STATEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE MADE WOULD LOOSE THEIR EF- 
FECT IF THEY WERE CONTESTED. HE DID NOT AT THIS TIME SEE ANY 
POSSIBILITY OF AN OUTCOME UNLESS HIS SUGGESTIONS WERE SERIOUSLY 
CONSIDERED AND ACTED UPON. 


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O 021 143 Z APR 73 
FM AMEMBASSY VIENNA 
TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 8292 
INFO SECDEF WASHDC IMMEDIATE 

SECRET NOFORN SECTION 2 OF 2 VIENNA 2633 

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5. KVITSINSKIY RAISED THE QUESTION OF NOMENCLATURE OF THE FEDERAL 
REPUBLIC OF GERMANY IN THE LIST OF PARTICIPANTS. HE SAID SOVIET 
EMBASSY HELSINKI HAD REPORTED THAT THE FERERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY 
WAS LISTED UNDER THE FRENCH ALPHABET AS " REPUBLIQUE FEDERAL 
D' ALLEMANDE." NEITHER WAS LISTED WITH THE WORD FOR GERMANY 
FIRST. KVITSINSKIY SAID THAT HIS AUTHORITIES ATTACHED IMPORTANCE 
TO THIS MATTER AND INSISTED THAT THE VIENNA TALKS NOT BE USED 
TO LAUNCH A NEW FEDERAL GERMAN EFFORT TO CLAIM STATUS WHICH 
IT DID NOT POSSESS. US REP SAID HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE 
HELSINKI PROCEDURE WAS QUITE DIFFERENT AND THAT HE CON- 
SIDERED FEDERAL GERMAN DESIRES TO BE LISTED AS " GERMANY, 

FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF" WHOLLY REASONABLE IN THE LIGHT OF THE 
ACTUAL HELSINKI PRACTICE AND OF THE FACT THAT MOST WORLD 
COUNTRIES WERE LISTED BY THEIR GEOGRAPHIC DESIGNATORS; AND 
COUNTRIES LIKE THE US AND USSR WERE EXCEPTIONS TO THIS GENERAL 
RULE. HE URGED KVITSINSKIY TO CHECK AGAIN AS TO THE PRACTICE 
IN HELSINKI. 


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6. KVITSINSKIY SAID HE WOULD DISCUSS THIS CONVERSATION WITH 
KHLESTOV AND TIMERBAYEV, REPORT IT TO MOSCOW, AND HOPED TO HAVE 
SOME RESPONSE BY THE EVENING OF APRIL 2. AT END OF QUADRILATERAL 
TALK WITH NETHERLANDS, US, HUNGARIAN AND SOVIET REPS ON MORNING 
OF APRIL2, KVITSINSKIY TOLD US REP PRIVATELY THAT THE DID NOT 
EXPECT FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS UNTIL APRIL 3. HUMES 


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Automatic Decaptioning: Z 

Capture Date: 01 JAN 1994 

Channel Indicators: n/a 

Current Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Concepts: n/a 

Control Number: n/a 

Copy: SINGLE 

Draft Date: 02 APR 1973 

Decaption Date: 28 MAY 2004 

Decaption Note: 25 YEAR REVIEW 

Disposition Action: RELEASED 

Disposition Approved on Date: 

Disposition Authority: golinofr 
Disposition Case Number: n/a 
Disposition Comment: 25 YEAR REVIEW 
Disposition Date: 28 MAY 2004 
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Document Number: 1973VIENNA02633 

Document Source: CORE 

Document Unique ID: 00 

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Executive Order: RR 

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From: VIENNA 

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Legacy Key: Iink1973/newtext/t1 9730431 /aaaahkwz. tel 

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Locator: TEXT ON-LINE 

Office: ACTION SS 

Original Classification: SECRET 

Original Handling Restrictions: EXDIS, NOFORN 

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Page Count: 4 

Previous Channel Indicators: 

Previous Classification: SECRET 

Previous Handling Restrictions: EXDIS, NOFORN 

Reference: 73 VIENNA 2621 

Review Action: RELEASED, APPROVED 

Review Authority: golinofr 

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Review Date: 28 AUG 2001 
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Review History: RELEASED <28-Aug-2001 by cunninfx>; APPROVED <21 FEB 2002 by golinofr> 

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Secure: OPEN 

Status: <DBA CORRECTED> gwr 971118 

Subject: MBFR: APRIL 1 DISCUSSION WITH SOVIET REP ON HUNGARIAN ISSUE 

TAGS: PARM, AU, n/a 

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SECSTATE WASHDC 

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Type: TE 

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